2. -5. 0. Still, Pre-retcon Beyonder stomps here. Mephisto said that The Beyonder could make idlest imaginings a reality with a wave of his hand, turning all of existence inside out), Vibration Manipulation (Created an earthquake throughout the city), Attack Reflection (Deflected Magneto's power beam towards the X-Men), Magnetism Manipulation (Repelled Magneto by duplicating his own. God-Tier John armed with his Retcon Powers tries to solo your favorite verse. About Pre-retcon/Classic Beyonder. Beyonder is a cosmic Marvel Comics comic entity created by Jim Shooter, Mike Zeck and John Beatty. Teams that give him a good enough fight to make him respect them he lets live. About; History; Powers; Equipment; Movies; Gallery; Battles; Comments; Edit; Power Stats; SHDb; uStats; Intelligence. After the retcon that wasn't the case. Round 4 same as round 3 the retcon happened for a reason. It took 3 of the Beyonders to take down the same LT. Pre Retcon Beyonder said that the combined powers of all the beings in the multiverse (including entities) where just like a drop in the sea and is considered to be a million times powerful than. The Beyonder was once a God with limitless powers in the Marvel Omniverse. 13 years ago@TheLegendary32 said:. Follow 3209. As in you're taking the story at face value. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. His powers exceeded that of even abstract entities present in infinite realms, coupled with the LT who holds authority over said entities to the point where their powers are a drop in the ocean to him. If he was a true omnipotent, then he wouldn't have been retconned. You know that. Manhattan) and has recreated a galaxy. Dimensional Tiering. 6 + (POW + (SPS*SPL))^2 + COM^1. SCP-682 (SCP Foundation) vs Beyonder (Pre Retcon) Fight ends only in Death. He'd beat composite Superman, let alone this robot. I am still wondering, the summary clearly says Racher Summers could beat the Beyonder if she absorbed all life force. than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. Divyansh13. 1. Tiering System: High 1-B | 1-A. He was stated to be millions of times powerful than the Entire Marvel Multiverse Combined which even included The Living Tribunal and Molecule Man and We all know that Living Tribunal is almost as Powerful As Michael DemiurgosAll Mighty: better feats, bigger multiverse, didn't get KOed by one of his creations. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Pre Retcon Beyonder'in seviyesi benim gözümde Mandrakk ile aynıdır ki buna göre sadece Vertigodan bile bayağı bir karakter yazabilirim bende. Pre-retcon Beyonder, ect. Even if it wasn't I'm pretty sure this wasn't added due to being a stomp. Cosmic. That's clearly an difference in power/authority. There has been several incarnations of the Beyonder, each a retcon of the one before. 4,925 4,750. The Beyonder/s (Marvel) vs Bleach universe. Beyonder is tier High 1-B for being an infinite dimensional being meaning that the Marvel Universe has infinite dimensions confirmed. Not to mention Beyonder detailing Doc Strange's win con over him, tailor. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. Not even remotely close. Rules: All tier zero characters from marvel are removed. There are other impressive feats to show, but they are all after the retcon. e. He grew into a weak-willed adult, made bitter and lonely by his mother's death, and full of fear and hatred of what he regarded as a deeply unfriendly world. Basically, I am perfectly fine with rating pre-retcon Beyonder as likely 1-A, as Oblivion had already been established at the time, but if Marvel establishes a new character that. Pre Retcon Beyonder is the Supreme Being of his Multiverse. LT got rekt by beyonder Reply Ozymandias935 • Additional comment actions. Attack Potency= Atleast Universal+ (killed countless cosmic beings from countless realities) | Atleast Hyperversal (3 of them was enough to kill The Living Tribunal and their battle with him raged across all realities at the same time) | High Hyperversal (The Beyonder from the secret wars (that would mean that the version of. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. And the Ivory Kings are nowhere near Pre Retcon Beyonder's power level. Pre Retcon Beyonder. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is. Beyonder, Pre-Retcon or Post-Retcon with minimum effort. Some stuff from DC like Lucifer Morningstar. Especially Yujiro's penis. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. . While still a child, the older Beyonders began their grand experiment where they transformed Owen Reece into the Molecule Man. Phoenix attacks Beyonder with all her power, Beyonder don't even flinch. Doom absorbed the power of Galactus to unlock more of MM's power and MM eventually needed everyone's help (especially Silver Surfer) to defeat the Beyonder. He was initially. They literally referenced him and said that he was just a child. Both Beyonder (assuming this is him outside his personal realm) and the Presence, since both are like Low 1-B, this could go either way. Origin: Marvel Comics. There is no way to square all of. 10. " (Fun fact, guys like EGD and Beyonder exists outside. #4. He beat the Living Tribunal. 1 of 2 Go to page. . English Branch All Mighty can knock out SK tier entities by casting flood and elder gods who hold back from accidentally destroying entirety of existence are sitting in his shadows, that's enough for both lucifer and beyonder. In terms of scaling, the downplay of most of the entire Marvel verse was frustrating. Alovenus is the strongest in fiction since Alovenus>Omnipotent beings. Summary. In the comics Homelander’s best objective strength feat is throwing a fighter jet across a room and he doesn’t have anything comparable in the show. But that doesn't mean Perpetua's feats are bad. Even if you want to argue that Beyonder is stronger, it doesn't matter, since Death has already feats of claiming infinite-dimensional entities, that are even. Post-Retcon Molecule Man easily overpowered the Post-Retcon Beyonder. Lucifer and Michael together are omnipotent. Basically, either or both can be considered to be the presence, in either it's evil or good forms. The Hand - Marked the beginning of creation. Comparing Multi-Eternity to baseline High 1-B, like the Glory is, is like comparing 10-B to High 3-A, or Low 2-C to 2-A. beyonder post retcon iii (aka beyonder of the beyonders) The Life-force is powerful than The Beyonder's power. Round 9: Lord English (Anyone who served him and who were amped by him count) Respect Thread for him and a bit for his Servants. Apparently due to the latest post about Doom people are claiming some Bleach characters like Aizen can beat The God Emperor. Sorted by: 9. Even if we insanely highball Spectre to be equal to the Living Tribunal (which, as powerful as he is, he clearly is. 1. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr. Pre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. Follow 41314. The Beyonder at his full power pre-retcon is omnipotent. Hit a Like And Subscribe To Help Out💵 “Wanna Donate/Support? 💵👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇💰PayPal💰. ago. SirMethos. PRB was millions of times more powerful than all the poster in the Multiverse combined. He wins. The original Beyonder was created for the Secret Wars (1985) miniseries. let's wait and see his actual feats. This was the same time the first Secret Wars wherein Beyonder first. From incredibly superficial research, it's the whole "Shadow/Dark Reflection of God" thing that has been knocking around in DC since the old Swamp Thing days. Beyonder is tier High 1-B for being an infinite dimensional being meaning that the Marvel Universe has infinite dimensions confirmed. If someone can actually name a more. Round 2: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs God of Stories Loki Bonus Round: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Venom (The End) Archived post. Ruphas not in baseline L1A, Ruphas can easily defeated Alovenus which is rated L1A character. Name: The Living Tribunal Origin. Can he beat them?Magi and Saint seiya can take down the post retcon versions but not pre retcon. Forum Posts. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is honestly far less impressive than Molecule man, at least current molecule man. Seriously at his peak height, Pre Retcon Beyonder was something that no current DC character could handle. The Beyonder erases Death itself from the Multiverse, the Living Tribunal and his delegation politely beg the Beyonder to bring back Death to the Multiverse. 0. 4 12 12 comments Best Top New Controversial Q&A CynicalWeeaboo • 7 yr. S. However, since infinite force and energy is the highest degree of strength that a character can reach in terms of physics there would be no level of power above what is necessary to destroy an infinite universe, i. . . Lucifer does not stand a chance here. My only question is: Is that Pre-Retcon. The Beyonder has been retconned. Pre-Retcon Beyonder (33 votes) Lucifer 61%. Pre-Retcon Beyonder, as powerful as he is, is STILL bound by dimensionality. Pre retcon MM scared the cosmics of the 80s even as groups, they had to just let him pass by out of fear, even beg him to fight Beyonder. the Source blinks Pre-Retcon Beyonder. When super-amped Doom battled the Beyonder he got stomped hard. Yet beings like Nyatharlope can create infinite numbers of infinite universes of infinite dimensions easily. Beyonder on the other hand, pre retcon at least, is a million times more powerful than the entire of Marvel combined. The Beyonder is an Cosmic powerful being from beyond the Marvel multiverse In the "Secret Wars" storyline, he brought. 8 years ago. 214. HOTU has shit tier feats, as does Beyonder. P. Named but mid-level Celestials. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A(more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B(same as The Beyonder). Making Beyonder stronger than a Tier 0 is not at all the same as scaling him to TLT. Beyonder one writer turned the Beyonder into nothing more than a street-level jobber begging his Daddy or the Lost One to give him some of his powers to create a universe full of gambling and girlfriends because he probably doesn't have the power to do it simply because the Lost One is the source of all his powers and abilities. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. Forums. Featherine is way above than Beyonder. Ashley. They may have gotten stronger and better feats post ret con but I. Mxyzptlk, Lucifer Morningstar, & Maxwell (DC) VS Pre Retcon Beyonder, Molecule Man & Galactus (Marvel) 2. Manhattan will almost vaporize all the people in here, but he will stop at Molecule Man or TOAA. Jackalinthebox said: I thought pre-retcon Beyonder was closer in power to Lucifer & Michael, rather than the Presence. Let me remind you that SCP verse is much bigger than both Marvel and DC. Imagion all he powers in the Marvel Multiverse (which is infinite), not just the Multiverse but also every being in it, and emptyness (which is also infinite) beyond it (blank pages) Even Stan Lee stated in an interview in the 80s, that Beyonder was supose to represent the power the writers had. Trying to apply that to the Beyonder is meaningless, he may as well embody all of them considering his origin. Hajun via feats and implied power. He’s stronger than the one above all who is pretty much god above god. vs. Definitely Beyonder. Since u said their "own" verse. However, PR Beyonder is an extremely powerful reality warper and is simply way out of Dr. If this. This thread wouldn't affect what tier Molecule Man (Pre-Retcon) is at because he still would be High 1-B. Beyonder and Thanos . Bonus round : pre retcon beyonder vs Rimuru. the other is a High Tier Reality Warper with disgusting hax also. (still high 1-B but much lower on the tier). Molecule man, PR beyonder, post retcon beyonders, oblivion, one below all and many many more. bonus: lỊch sỬ cÁc lẦn retcon cỦa beyonder – kẺ sỞ hỮu nhỮng feat bÁ ĐẠo nhẤt lỊch sỬ marvel comic. All proof that is needed is the fact that he is beyond the marvel multiverse. True form DS power is unknown. Thanos with the HOTU is more powerful than LT as well, though I can't remember any massive feats he had. Both are vastly above. Master/Crazy Hand, Tabuu, Galeem/Dharkon. True Form Pennywise ain't on Pre-Retcon Beyonder's level, lol. Hence why people differentiate the beyonder as. 5: Anyone with The Infinity Gauntlet (When it could be used in Unison)You need to be logged in to post comments. Nope that’s pre-retcon not post retcon. Reply Slaine_Troyard •. CCC Gilgamesh vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder. The fight takes place in an empty galaxy. The energy breached into reality during the accident that gave Owen his powers, but as there was no container, a large part of such energy wandered off into another universe, creating the Beyonder. Street----- Post-retcon isn’t anywhere near as powerful as Classic (Pre), but he’s still pretty powerful. Hi all😅 i want upgrade beyonder profile :) Basically beyonder is being of infinite dimensions when He limits himself, but as beyond realm he is. . 8 ) ^ TIER Super Power Score and Level. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is the embodiment of the Beyond-Realm and is the chief of the extra-dimensional race the Beyonders who created the cosmic cubes and Kosmos, but the Maker (one of the. 3. His anti-feats are plot-induced because it's attempting to tell the story of him trying to figure out the Marvel multiverse because it's so tiny and simplistic in scope to the Beyonder realm. Beyonder was affecting the entire Marvel multiverse or omniverse, or something like that, all at once. They’re 50 tonners at most. Xeranthemum from Suggsverse, at least going by the wiki. Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated. Immersion: Beyonder (Pre/Post-Retcon), GoS Loki, HOI Vision, The One Above All and Multi Eternity via Eternity Mask, Deadpool with the Continuity Gem and She-Hulk (Classics); formerly Plot Resistance: The Beyonders (Ivory King), Beyonder (Post-Retcon); scaling from the other beyonders and GoS Loki Toon Force: She-Hulk (Classics); formerly the Elder gods should be top of their tier. Originally Beyonder was a mysterious cosmic entity from outside the multiverse who was more powerful than Galactus, The Celestials, and the entire Cosmic Compass. ) along with the Great Houses of Gallifrey (A. Attack techniques and abilities: The Presence has many aspects including. Pre Retcon Beyonder gets wrecked hard lol. Posts. ago. Even LT feared him and begged him not to do everything he did. @majinmike: Because Beyonder is considered nigh omnipotence , even we assume they can adapt his power, they can still get '' unmade'' ,because they are not even high tier cosmic beings. He would also be the main villain in. Pre-Retcon Beyonder. PR Beyonder is probably the strongest comic character there is if you go by feats alone and not by hype. I feel like Pre-Retcon Beyonder can do practically anything unless someone "more omnipotent" negates his power in some way. Powers and Stats. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. which. So BeyonderGod Beyonder > Cynical DemonbaneSearch titles only By: Search Advanced search…Beyonder by feats however after thinking about it i think EGD should win. CryptoName Owen Reece, Molecule Man Origin Marvel Tier: 1-B Gender: Male Classification: Mutant Age: Unknown Abilites and Powers: Matter Manipulation, Reality Warping, Space-Time Manipulation, Transmutation, Probability Manipulation, Molecular Manipulation Weaknesses: a non stable mind Destructive Capacity: Beyond Multiversal ( was able to. PR Beyonder > Celestials > Phoenix Force. 3 years ago. Now after the retcon the Living Tribunal, and by extension Michael and Lucifer are above the Beyonder. Anyone trying to still argue Pre Retcon Beyonder is some Marvel top tier needs to have their info refreshed. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. Even lower tier characters in Mythos would. New Comics. Creaturemaster971. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. High 3-A. -Everything in bleach. Tier: At least Low 2-C, likely 2-A | At least Low 1-C, likely higher | 1-A Name: Alien X Origin: Ben 10 Gender: Male Age: Inapplicable (Likely billions of years old. Edit: Looking at the respect threads PR Beyonder actually seems a lot more impressive, and it seems my point regarding Lucifer being half the Presence was wrong. If we separate the pre-Retcon Beyonder from the current current lineup, it's probably more powerful than an infinite dimensional multiverse, and even the highest-level beings in it are far more powerful than those who didn't fully transcend the concept of dimension at the time. PR Beyonder takes it 10/10. And boy, DC is supremely addicted to crises. Pre-Retcon Beyonders was described to be like a child compared to the Beyonders we are seeing now. The old prerecton beyonder wasnt the same as the current beyonders, but he was related to them. Tier Sıralamasını benden iyi biliyorsan Elder Scrolls taki Dragonborn, Kratos ve Dante gibi karakterlerin tüm Mcu. Beyonder(Pre-Retcon) Tier 1. Beyonder pre retcon up to 1A and possible H1A Beyonder preretcon upgrade to 1A. 7. Rememeber he is a CONCEPT who wields power enough for him to create and destroy 60 billion. This thread will only feature Pre retcon beyonder's feats, credits to rolldestroyer for the scans and information. 8 ) ^ TIER Super Power Score and Level. And the Beyonder and the Molecule Man are in fact, two halves of one such Cosmic Cube. 1. Dr. 0. deactivated-621c40d36c53f. Imagion all he powers in the Marvel Multiverse (which is infinite), not just the Multiverse but also every being in it, and emptyness (which is also infinite) beyond it (blank pages) Even Stan Lee stated in an interview in the 80s, that Beyonder was supose to represent the power the writers had over the comics. The Beyonders who are attacking the multiverse are beings that live in the beyond, which most likely is either outside the multiverse, or be void between universes. Beyonder is millions of times more powerful than the Living Tribunal. CC Goku is outerversal while in Uni Blue, meanwhile Pre retcon Beyonder as far as i know is high outer and has way better feats, apart from being part of a much larger cosmology. Manhattan is a low-medium tier matter manipulator. "But only in their dreams can men be truly free. Molecule Man has fought Pre-Retcon Beyonder (who is more powerful than Dr. Hell, Featherine Augustus Aurora is more "omnipotent" than him,. "The Beyond" was quintillions of times more massive than the Marvel Universe. Powers are basically the same thing. Location. Respect Pre-Retcon Beyonder. The Beyonder was originally an organizer of a massive. LT literally held the entirety of Marvel and DC universe in the palm of. 1 Answer. 0. Well COIE Anti Monitor, as powerful as he may be, is actually a little out of his league here. as omnipotent deities in their respective realities, the OAA Dominates the Hoi Realm. I agree with his tier, but one thing I don't understand is how is beyonder above Oblivion when he is just above existene while Oblivion is not part of. He is only nigh-omnipotent, nigh-omniescent, and nigh-omnipresent. He would also be the main villain in. Although marvel uses numbers to calculate; it's as if he's Alef Null x Billion beyond infinity that already exist, which Tribunal and many others have already transcended. Why? Because beyonder powers are const and limited. Wiki Points. beyonder post-retcon i (aka beyonder cosmic cube) 3. the_doctor. Bloodlust on. Originally posted by the Darkone Spectre at full powered is above the pre-recon beyonder, Spectre is powered by God, I'm sorry that's one Ace even the pre-recon Beyonder can't overcome. Pre Retcon Beyonder is multiversal while Homelander is low A tier. If someone can actually name a more. The Beyonder is millions of times more powerful than the combined power in the multiverse which includes the Living Tribunal - Scan 1. With this skill (plot manipulation), still can affect Pr beyonder. Name: Beyonder Origin: Marvel Tier: 1-B | 1-A Gender: Inapplicable Classification: Cosmic Entity Age: Unknown Abilites and Powers: Nigh Omnipotence, Omnipresence, Nigh Omniscience, Remote Mind Control, Reality Embodiment, Reality Condition, Physical Law Immunity, Reality Warping Weaknesses: None Notable Destructive Capacity: Beyond. SirMethos. Fight takes place in an empty multiverse. Unwritten Leviathan are highly hyperversal, if not extraversal. The Physical Timeline Multiverse of DC has changed sizes from being 52 Timelines. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. The only thing Pre retcon beyonder has going for him against featherine is that he was described as "god" in the beyonder realm to possibly put him on her level. 26,333. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder TOAA is Marvel and the Presence/Elaine Belloc is DC, but there's a quote by Jim Shooter and Stan Lee from Marvel that puts The Pre-Retcon Beyonder more higher--even above TOAA, (including Elaine Belloc AKA the Presence) and that's “being millions and millions of times more powerful than Marvel". Not Pre-Retcon Beyonder’s either. Pre-Retcon Molecule Man is considered comparable to Pre-Retcon Beyonder, and there is a vast supply of evidence proves that Molecule Man was not in fact comparable to the. Beyonder Boy ("Incomplete Cosmic Cube"): Single Mother of Three (Perpetua): Noneless21 He/Him 7,323 4,911. A High Nigh-Omnipotent being; with no limits. Post Retcon the Beyonder was part cosmic cube along with Owen. Pre-Retcon Beyonder, as powerful as he is, is STILL bound by dimensionality. Who will win in a fight between Beyonder and Multi-Oblivion & Oblivion (Pre-Retcon)?The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is the embodiment of the Beyond-Realm and is the chief of the extra-dimensional race the Beyonders who created the cosmic cubes and Kosmos, but the Maker (one of the. Supposedly it is equal but opposite to the Presence. However, high balled Merc (the transdual Taikyuko-in-disguise on) wtf Xeelee stomps Beyonder. 5 years ago. Locked post. First Tier Mages vs Molecule Ma Round 1: The Mages are sane and aren't Marauders. The first firmanent would be the only being who could challege beyonder in a fair fight . Beyonder is a top tier reality warper there is no spoon there is no trigger there is no SOK. 0. ) Pre-recton Beyonder, was the sum of everything. He. 3. Holy moley. Death only dealt with Dream so casually because of how the concepts they embody interact with each other. The One Above All/Pre retcon Beyonder (both characters were created by legendary comic book writers Jack Kirby and Jim Shooter, Beyonder and OAA are avatars of these two comic book writers. ago. The Beyond Realm is a existence that is beyond and older than the current Marvel Omniverse, Originally a realm that was from the Original Beyonder and due to retcons is currently housed by the Omnipotential beings known as The Beyonders. That one time Phoenix Force making Pre Retcon Beyonder struggle: is this a testament to her power? Scan in question. Alien X is free of any indecisiveness, and both are bloodlusted. MJJ's powers keep increasing exponentialy. Creation. He'd be incredibly more versetile with his approach in the fight. Continental. Lucifer Morningstar (DC) Respect Lucifer Morningstar! (DC/Vertigo) I am a bot | About | Code | Opt-out | Missing or wrong characters? Reply explaining the issue. so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. Even lower tier characters in Mythos would. even the abstracts in marvel have an odd sort of "cosmically punching each other" way of expressing their power, where lucifer sort. Edit: Darkest Knight and anti-crisis wonder woman probably also beat the beyonder, as they are empowered by the infinite crisis or anti-crisis energy (the fundamental good/bad energies of the universe, as provided by the presence. Didn't Comic God of Stories affected Pre-Retcon Beyonder? 7 days ago. There has been several incarnations of the Beyonder, each a retcon of the one before. It's stated so multiple times throughout the comics. 2. So I might be missing something. -Beyonder/s are bloodlusted. 5: (Pre-Retcon Only) Molecule Man (Owen Reece) Tier 2: The Living Tribunal; Tier 2. The PR Beyonder was defined as a multiverse composed of literally everything outside of that, and that existence shared a single consciousness. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. Possibly the most powerful character in creation. Follow 41274. BeyonderGod's Beyonder is Omnipotent. And those mirrors were so fucking weak, that a bunch of low tier demons were already destroying them. Pre-retcon Beyonder is his most popular matchup, or at least the one I see most often, but who's his closest?. The Beyonder should easily be Tier 0 and here's why:-. Beyonder is marvel. @amendment50 @jardinain2 @decaf_wizard @watcher5000 Can help you out with his feats. Similarly, two characters in the same tier need not necessarily be equivalent in terms of power. PanzerX. It’s not. Gen. Then there is Inhuman/Mutant beyonder who had nothing to do with The beyonders. ago. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. At the time this storyline was written Beyonder Spider-Man would stomp. So, I looked at The Beyonder's(Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely,. 8 ) ^ TIER Super Power Score and Level. Basically he is like the Amalgam Brothers, but so much powerful the Brothers would be microscopic in comparison. Black Friday DEAL: 1 Year Membership for $5. Theoreticaly speaking yes Pre Retcon Beyonder is above TOAA simply because TOAA is the most powerful being in the marvel universe, and PRB is 1 million times more powerful than the collective. Who can beat Pre-Retcon Beyonder? 7. Yeah true. Though with infinite power he is far more concerned about his place in life after being the all and everything within his realm he tries to understand the concepts of Life, Death, and Desire all things that he want experience. 4 years ago. akuto fictionally transcends an uncountably infinite layered hierarchy of characters who are above the concepts of space & time and/or platonic forms in nature which also contains all possibilities & impossibilities, & each tier in the hierarchy fictionally transcends the one below it, making even the lowest characters in the hierarchy very high into high. unlimited power to manipulate matter and energy; invulnerable. Still Pre-Retcon Beyonder. He later. That being said, Pre-Retcon Beyonder was the HIGHEST tier character Marvel ever had. George and Jessica vs Gaap and Ronove. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is literally millions of times more powerful than the Marvel creation which contains infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses and so on. Beyonder is a cosmic Marvel Comics comic entity created by Jim Shooter, Mike Zeck and John Beatty. But This Gaunlet is way out of order, why the heck is Odin and Zeus above Molecule Man. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. People already think Pre-Retcon Beyonder is around the One Above All (directly below, equal, or above), so this new big bad is gonna be busted in a confusing way, since a fraction of his is power. And with this analogy, Alovenus/Ruphas can create L1A character A in fiction A, But can easily defeated By character B In fiction B. Or, more accurately, He wills the predominating aspect of his presence from non-being to being, from void to reality, yet still encompassing both. He was initially depicted as functionally omnipotent showing feats like creating planets and destroying galaxies. Reply.